#01924 Comment Details - 341i1r13.pdf (revision #1)

Document Information
File Name 341i1r13.pdf State Draft
Date Added 2009-10-08 14:32:39 Revision Number 1
Submitter Name Person 6 Size 313K
Comment Information
Summary
Opposing New Regulations for Fitness centers
State (Disposition) Addressed (Unresolved)
Date Added 2009-11-24 07:53:22 Last Updated 2010-04-26 13:51:13
Submitter Name Janet Roberts Assigned To Unassigned
Company Name Anytime Fitness Temple Terrace Florida Response None
Interest Category Category N/A
Origin Public Review Section, Page, Line
Item Item Description
Submitter Comment
I STRONGLY oppose the Proposed New Standards for fitness clubs. In this struggling economy, when we need new businesses to open, this new standard will put the 24/7 fitness club model out of business. We are just opening our first club in January and this would severely cripple us. This standard favors the larger "big box" clubs and in essence is an attempt to close down the smaller clubs. Please do NOT vote for this regulation.
Submitter Proposed Solution
Do not require staffed personnel on site for 24/7 fitness clubs. The 24/7 model has security features which include call buttons to emergency personnel. (people working out in the facility when not staffed, can wear these call buttons - like what is used for senior citizens who live alone)
Developer Response
Ms. Roberts,

Thank you for your ballot and comment on NSF 341 Health/Fitness Facilities.

This is a voluntary standard; therefore, it is not necessary to conform. The Joint Committee approved a motion that a preamble be added to the document to explain that the purpose of the standard – certification process, it does not set an industry standard for care and emphasize personal responsibility.

A thorough discussion of Section ‘1.3.14 staffed’ occurred at the August 2009 Joint Committee Meeting. An excerpt from the meeting summary appears below:

1.3.14 staffed

Should the standard include clubs are not staffed 100% of the time? The general opinion was that either a facility is staffed or it is not during operation hours. T. Richards read an e-mail from a partially monitored club. This club believes they can meet the requirements of the proposed Standard and are safe. This club believes they should not be excluded. Is there an equivalency for these clubs to meet? In the past couple of years there has been an interesting shift in the market to have clubs that are partially monitored.

Safety of club patrons and employees should be a clubs priority. If it a club is not manned, how can it provide safety to its patrons? Safe is going beyond the AED. It is not a matter of if someone will be harmed in an unmanned club but when will it happen. How can a person be responded to in 3 minutes or less in a club that is not monitored? Do you limit your patrons during those hours to only low risk patrons? Certification will help comfort the consumer. T. Richards indicated the club that e-mailed him had 3 incidents and all of them were responded to within 3 minutes. Large clubs have controls in place for safety. However, large fitness clubs have franchises that are not all run the same. IHRSA finds this issue compelling but has not made a final statement

The definition should not use a percentage or numbers of hours when defining staffed. Minimum wage is not ok for 80% of the time. Staffed full time by whom? If the JC allows this exception, a new exception would need to be made for each unique club.

This initiative is to dovetail with the ‘Exercise with Medicine’. Would a physician recommend a facility without staff?

Motion: Remove the terms ‘at least 67% of’ from the term ‘staffed’. S. Tharrett moved, K. McKay seconded.

Vote: 13 in favor. 2 opposed – T. Richards and D. Cotton

Motion passed.

Please provide a written response via e-mail to Lorna Badman, Joint Committee on Health Fitness Facilities Secretariat, indicating whether your comment has been addressed. Lorna can be reached at badman@nsf.org. If a response is not received by May 10, 2010, NSF will consider your comment addressed.

Thank you again for your thorough review

Walter R. Thompson

Supporting File: Thompson-Roberts-4-26-2010.pdf