Joint Committee on Personal Care Products

  • 1.  4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 04-25-2025 11:05 AM

    Hello All, 

    With the ballot currently open and no comments submitted so far, I am canceling the April 28 meeting. I will keep the other meetings on your calendar for now in case we receive comments. Please make sure you go on and vote!

    Best,

    Rachel 



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    NSF
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  • 2.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 04-27-2025 06:24 PM
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    Hi Rachel,

    Not sure if my comment doc uploaded but here it is just in case.

     

    Happy Sunday 😊

     

    Kind regards,

    Maya

     

    Maya Ivanjesku MS

    M2B Pharma

    www.BLTSkinCream.com

    941-962-0458

     

     




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  • 3.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 04-28-2025 12:30 PM
    It's been received Maya! 
    I'll take a look at it ASAP. 

    Thank you so much for voting and your comment. 

    Respectfully, 
    Natalie Cox 

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  • 4.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 04-29-2025 07:26 AM

    Team,

     

    Is there consideration on how to agree on accepting methods to verify ingredients when NSF does not have a standard defined or method for testing.

     

    In both products our company submitted – we failed the initial testing:  One for NSF not being able to test Lemongrass Oil and unwilling to take supply chain paperwork alone; Second for testing Shea Butter (an ingredient – one that is well known) testing that the material was not present (using an inappropriate test)

     

    The issue being that in both cases a failure notice was issued to the manufacturer (me) – and the topic debated.  Implying we would not get certified.   It put the burden on the manufacturer to introduce a proper test methodology to NSF for testing the ingredient presence, %, and purity.   Resulting in a significant delay in the testing given the iterative approach, having to get back in to the test que et al.... and Shea Butter / Essential Oils are prevalent in topical personal care products.  NSF experience is in Supplements testing – so there is a gap here

     

    There should be a method defined for those substances/ingredients – that enables NSF to develop a data base on the test methods for ingredients from their manufacturers of ISO processes – that do not delay product testing / cert months.

     

    w/r

    John




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  • 5.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 04-29-2025 10:17 AM

    Hey John, 

    I wanted to let you know I got your comment and I'm reviewing it to get you a comprehensive response. 
    Thank you so much for bringing this up and I'll get you a comment ASAP. 

    Respectfully, 
    Natalie Cox 



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    NSF
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  • 6.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 05-07-2025 03:08 PM

    Rachel/Natalie

    I have reviewed the draft and I have only one comment.  I am still concerned about stability testing.  I note that a scientifically sound protocol or plan must be submitted with the initial application and I'm very happy with that.  I am concerned that the applicant is not required to begin executing the plan for two years, which means that data may only become available in the third year of a product being on the market.

    I realize that we discussed this more than once.

    If we had the debate, and I am in a minority of one, then I don't want to withhold my endorsement for the document as a whole.  Is there/what is a process for last minute resolution of outstanding concerns?

    Thank you

    Geoff



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    Geoff Waby
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    Authentic Quality LLC
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  • 7.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 05-07-2025 04:42 PM

    Hi Geoff,

     

    Thank you for weighing in!  The goal with extending out the time to complete stability was primarily to defray costs for those that didn't already have data. While we did discuss this in committee no one expressed strong opinions in regard to when the stability protocol is required to be started.  That being said, we have some other comments that require edits so this is great timing.  Can you vote for the standard as written and submit your comment so we can "officially" record and respond?

     

    Is starting the protocol by the time of the first annual review an acceptable edit?  This was the other timeline that was discussed.

     

    Best,

    Erin  

     

    Erin McKinney, MS

    Principal Technical Manager

    Nutrition and Wellness

    emckinney@nsf.org T +1 734-214-6192

     

    NSF | nsf.org

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  • 8.  RE: 4/28/25 JC Meeting Canceled

    Posted 05-07-2025 04:46 PM
    Erin

    Thank you, clearly I didn't express my view strongly enough ��, but yes I would accept starting to execute the protocol before the first annual renewal.

    Thank you

    Geoff



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